For those who don't know: He is the one that axed Ray Franz.
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What is Wesley Benner (C.O.) up to these days?
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for those who don't know: he is the one that axed ray franz..
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Number of anointed partakers in new yearbook?
by JWOP ini haven't seen the 2014 yearbook on the jw site yet.
i'm looking to see if the number of partakers has increased again (as it has for many years now).
anyone have a scan of it yet?.
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Fernando >>> "rule upon" the earth (not over)
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That's always a good one and makes for lively discussions with elders and MSs.
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The Governing Body Have Stabbed Many Old Bethelites In The Back By Not Taking Care Of Them In Their Old Age
by frankiespeakin inthese guys are real company men when they have mass lay off of older bethelites tossing them to the curb and making the congregation they are assigned to carry some of the load, so that the watchtower corporation can cut costs of providing for these nolonger young people who have devoted theirs lives to the corporation.. they are heartless bastards aren't they?
i wonder what kind of undercurrent this is causing at headquartes?.
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Caveat emptor:
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What's With INVISIBLE ??
by Cold Steel inthe 'dubs' came by today just as the wife and i were on the way out.
we chatted a few moments and the two guys wanted to know if i had any questions about the bible.
so i asked them to drop by in a day or two and they left me with two thin magazines and a book they jokingly referred to as "the gold nugget.".
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At the end of the apparition was his ectoplasm?
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Acts 20:28
by never a jw inacts 20:28 nwt.
pay attention to yourselves+ and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed you overseers,+ to shepherd the congregation of god,+ which he purchased with the blood of his own son.
king james and other translations.
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Jehovah is King! New Light or muck up in 15/01/14 WT?
by wizzstick inso the new jan wt article on "100 years of kingdom rulehow does it affect you?
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but over on jwr poster cg4205 has noticed something that demands a seperate thread i think.. at the top of the article, in the can you answer box, it says:.
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In like manner the religious clergy of Christendom appeared to prosper in divine favor up till A.D. 1914. That year the times appointed for worldly nations to dominate the earth ended. Then Jehovah God took over his power to rule the earth as King and installed his Son in the throne. — 1951 The Watchtower, 4/1 p. 207 par. 8
Jehovah has installed the Messianic King, Jesus Christ, on his glorious throne to be coruler with Him! — 1990 The Watchtower, 1/15 p. 20 par. 15
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As far as the Watchtower goes, how should an adulteress be punished?
by I_love_Jeff inshould we use jesus' advice john 8:7 or god's advice .
leviticus 20:10?
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NWT (2013) John 8:7 revision:
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In 1943 the Watch Tower Society’s book “The Truth Shall Make You Free” did away with the nonexistent extra 100 years in the period of the Judges and placed the end of 6,000 years of man’s existence in the 1970’s.
1974 The Watchtower, August 15, page 507
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Perhaps it was an precocious act after all.
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JW's Unanswerable Question & Why Doesn't Everyone Take Them to Task For This?
by Perry inthe one question that is absolutely unanswerable by jehovah's witnesses that actually understand their own doctrines is this:.
can you show me even one new testament scripture that shows how a person can get their sins forgiven while outside of the new covenant?.
most of us are familiar with the one proof scripture that has all the necessary elements tied together into one neat doctrine - matther 26: 27,28:.
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Can you show me even ONE New Testament scripture that shows how a person can get their sins forgiven while outside of the New Covenant? No, I can't.
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But the 'holy spirit directed GB' is doing snake oil galore on that subject:
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BENEFICIARIES OF THE NEW COVENANT
Upon learning that the 144,000 are in the new covenant, some may have thought that only these benefit from it. Perhaps they thought so because only anointed ones are to partake of the emblems at the annual Memorial of Christ’s death, where the wine represents the “blood of the covenant.” (Mark 14:24) Recall, though, that those in the new covenant are to be associates with Jesus as the “seed” of Abraham, by means of which all nations will be blessed. (Gal. 3:8, 9, 29; Gen. 12:3) Somehow, through the new covenant, Jehovah will fulfill his promise to bless all mankind through Abraham’s “seed.” (...) What happens to the sins of those whom God favors? As noted earlier, Jehovah said through Jeremiah: “I shall forgive their error, and their sin I shall remember no more.” (Jer. 31:34) God does this for the anointed on the basis of Jesus’ sacrifice. In a similar way, God can forgive the sins of the great crowd on the basis of the same “blood of the covenant.” Jeremiah’s saying that God would “remember” sins no more does not imply that He would have a memory lapse and simply not be able to recall the sins. Rather, it indicates that once Jehovah has administered any needed discipline and forgiven a repentant sinner, God throws that past sin behind Him. Think of the sins King David committed involving Bath-sheba and Uriah. David received discipline and felt the consequences of his sins. (2 Sam. 11:4, 15, 27; 12:9-14; Isa. 38:17) Yet, God did not keep holding David accountable for those sins. (Read 2 Chronicles 7:17, 18.) As indicated in the new covenant, once Jehovah has forgiven sins, based on Jesus’ sacrifice, He remembers them no more.—Ezek. 18:21, 22. (...) Accordingly, the new covenant highlights a wonderful aspect of Jehovah’s dealings with sinful humans, both the anointed, who are in the covenant, and those with an earthly hope. You can trust that once Jehovah has dealt with your sins, he will not bring them up again.
Jeremiah-Book, chap. 14 pp. 175-177http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102010153?q=%22BENEFICIARIES+OF+THE+NEW+COVENANT%22&p=par
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February 2014- Watchtower Public edition now available!
by A.proclaimer inthe new watchtower public edition titled "the war that chnaged the world" and the awake titled "how to invest your time wisely" for february are up.
looks like they are still sticking to 1914. they do talk about the war and tie it in with the 1914 interpretation.. watchtower public:.
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20140201/.
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From the February 2014 Awake, page 13:
However, one thing is certain: The church Constantine legitimized (...) However, one thing is certain: The church Constantine legitimized: (...) From this church — that was now worldly — sprang countless denominations.
What does all of this mean for us? It means that we should not take the teachings of any church for granted but that we should examine them in the light of the Bible. — 1 John 4:1.
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Everyone's church but the JWs, of course !
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